Spent Sat, Sun and Mon up in the hills... in the shade along the creek, it was running about 20 degrees cooler up there and mostly just pleasant, no people, no bugs and mostly no people, put on some mt miles looking for mt goats and even found a few... decided to rejoin civilization this am, along Greenwater coming down 410 the White is pretty much running mud and looking somewhere between agitated and downright angry, river rescue deserves a break, I don't expect that anybody is willingly jumping in that Lahar.