I'll tell ya, I thought that a crackhead was bad, wheeew! Let's review, Hawk you were talking about your knee's shaking and the heart pounding effect these fish put upon yourselve, crack is the same way! You try it once ( not that I know ) and your addicted. You can't live without the drug your pretty much done until you O/D somewhere. Look at Steelheading the same way! You hook one at a young age but here you are 25 years later with no girlfiend still becaue she can't stand how much time you spend on the river and still don't bring home a fish. First thing that jumps into her mind is " your cheating on me aren't you "!! Screwed! After dealing with that she leaves, so you can have more time on the river ( total guilt trip but you get over it ). Your fishing gear cost more than your ride, your living off top roman so you can afford next weekends fishing excursion and even if you don't really have the money to fish that weekend then you find away to do so, period! I would say that everyone on this board is a crackhead!!! *LOL* Fish on, Brian