Hey Grumpy and Townley-

Thanks for the info. I just left Saturday figured I'd figure it out. I put in off some road that went diagonal along Nooch Hwy and took out at Black Creek. Little did I know that was a long ass drift. I was talking to some dude and he said, "you takin' out at Black Creek."

I said, "Yeah."

He said, "you've got about 10 miles to go."

I thought to myself, 10 miles, no way (it's 3:30pm by the way). So I kept going down, rowing through the non-holding areas to speed things up just in case this guy was right. A few turns later I ran into another guy.

I said, "how far to Black Creek?"

He said, "about 7 miles."

By this time it was 4:15pm and I wanted to get to the launch before dark because I didn't know where it was because I'd never been there before. So I had to boogie the whole way down to get out by dark. I showed up by dark and somehow didn't miss the take-out. I didn't want to fish the Chealis. At least my buddy got a fish. One of the three I saw that day. Boy am I sore today. Real sore! Whoa!