Pete Bergmann was also at WDF and he was part of NWMT. Another person, whom I never met, was Jefferts as it was called the Bergmann-Jefferts tag in the early years.

I think the NWMT moved at least some of its offices to the Olympia area as Pete and Frank, plus some really good bios, went and worked there rather than WDF. They (NWMT) were especially sensitive to the needs of working mothers, which was not a WDF value.

As to the CWTs one of my first paid jobs in fisheries was putting CWTs into UW Chinook. At Snow Creek, ww put the tags in with a copper syringe as smolt size was too variable, especially the steelhead, to use the machines. We also CWT'd a couple of Bullheads. On them, the tags were inserted subcutaneously and the skull was too damn hard for the needle to penetrate. Nice big adipose fin to clip off, though.