Next time you drive along the river stop and ask. See what the answers are. This doesn't just apply to fishing. I hunt over in Montana and its the same over there.99% of the land is posted there also. All because it has been abused. So unless there is a world wide conspirasy as you seem to think, people have ruined it for them selves. Its not just the little land owner either. Look at Wheyrhouser (don't know the correct spelling) and Simpson Timber. Most all there property is gated off, all because of abuse. The put in at Schufer bridge, blocked off because of garbage. If you came to me and told me who you were, I would let you fish. Not because of the way you feel about access, but because you sound like someone who would respect others property. But sad to say I think you are in the minorty.

[This message has been edited by fishhead5 (edited 02-15-2001).]