RT, Tha tis what I heard from a couple buddies who fought the crowd up there also. Said they got 5 fish and had to deal with that mess. We were very happy with our spot. Never had to drop off anchor to land any of our fish. Will take that any day over that crowd. To be honest with ya kind of happy to see fishing drop off a little then it gets back to the regulars fishing and the ones who jumbed on the band wagon to "try" and catch salmon go home.