Hey K, I've only been a long time moondogger eek laugh . ... It was Gizmo Man - Walter P., president of ... oh crap, I forget ... a WA flyfishing organization - maybe either Skamania Flyfishers Assoc. or Washington Flyfisher Assoc. ... he throws a mean spey rod cast on the Washougal now and then. ... BTW, feeling much better tonight!!! wink - Steve