JTD, sorry to hear you have had some bad experiences on the Carbon. If you don't mind leaving the Meathole's to the Meatheads you can usually do pretty good. That leeve road makes for some easy walking for the young ones.

Sinker maybe that was me you saw with the big hen on Saturday, she went at 20lbs even. Just after the guys in the canoe went by on Sunday I picked up a twelve pound fin clipped summer run steelhead. in the same drift. We got the same report from them too.

Sturza, even with that chocolate milk water fish short and large bright color with lots of shrimp scent. Use the same tactics that you would use for dirty water steelhead.