For creekwalker-just wanted to tell ya I edited my post above. If you seen it before I did, just ignore what I said. I was partly messin with ya, but partly concerned about what you posted and how it would affect the river. Sorry if I offended you. I've only fished that river in the fall a couple times and of course never caught a silver there. But I know peeved the locals get if ya know what I mean. Hell, what am I sayin, you're a local. If that's the way you guys are (willing to share info) then again send it my way. I know about the steel there.