Ron Bob,

I try, but we all have impacts just by the simple act of living here in the Northwest. Water, air, trees...wildlife needs all of them, but so do we. It's a difficult balance.

We "need" water, air, paper, roads, cars, etc. just to live. We don't "need" to kill wild fish to live.

I hope that nowhere in these thread, or the others that are zipping across the digital world on other BB's, did I come across as being on a high horse. If I did, it was not intended.

On the contrary, I'm trying to ask a question similar to the one you asked me, that is, with all the impacts on steelhead, what is each of us individually doing to reduce the most obvious and direct impact, which is the impact of a stick or rock to the head of a native steelhead.

Many other things we all do have bad impacts on the physical requirements that steelhead need from the world. Since this thread is about the upcoming hearings on new rule proposals, specifically the one dealing with cnr of native steelhead, that's the one I'm talking about here.

I'm not sure there's room in this forum for discussions of other factors, as they would fill up all the space available. This one factor is taking up quite a bit of digital space as it is!

I agree that we all need to individually look at our own personal actions and wants, and see how we can use or modify them to the benefit of wild steelhead populations. Not just our fishing habits.

Killing fish ourselves, or pointing at other factors that limit the success of wild fish, will not get those fish out of the bins you saw them in, either now or in the future. That's the attitude that I can't understand people having.

If I'm missing something, then I'm willing to hear it.

Fish on...

Todd.