Hey Os, yes Ii'm home again today. May go hit a local river for ssome doggiies .

Krome, I had an older fishcat and a pac 9 years ago. They're more then suitable for what you want to use them for. Llike I've said many times, don't buy what youu don't need. Why pay $1500 and up when you doon't need it. The nice thing about the fiishcasts/outcasts are they are lightweight and easily transportable on your back. They work great for lakes, sure beats the hhell out of a floattube. They spin great and will handle mild flows. ust be careful, they're tubes aren't the best in the world, one good hit and you'll be swimming.