AD Pose, thanks for the info. Maybe I could get some of my Special Forces buds to set up a sniper? Nah, the scum isn't worth the ammo. A set-up team with a video camera and cell phone might be a good thing though Seems to be a rash of that around lately. One of these fools is going to run into the wrong individual who will take them out to the woodshed for a good old fashioned whoopin' And then the loser will probably take the guy protecting his property to court, good old fashioned greed