That makes sense Kieth, My little brother absolutely swears by Wizard, however, everytime we go steelhead fishing together, my boraxed eggs kick ass all over his chem cured eggs. That's gotta be it. Its gotta be the nitrate thing. Even my brother will admit that when he gets a hit from a Steelhead on his Wizard cured eggs, it's just kind of a bump and run type bite, but when I get a bite on my boraxed eggs, the fish tend to bite and hang on..... They aren't as apt to spit my eggs out.