I agree with you guys about just tactfully asking the bankie where he'd prefer you drift past. ... As for those fishermen that seem to have to 'lay the brow' on other fishermen for no reason I think it's pretty primative - and funny even. One of these days I'm going to turn toward a guy with the 'get the hell out of my river' scowl on his mug and just growl visciously like a wolverine while showing as much teeth as possible. rolleyes