B Run, first let me say that I have not ever and will not ever buy one of those tribal permits. I have had enough dealings with some tribal members here in Mt to leave a real bad taste in my mouth for any tribe and their poilitics. Too many bad stories to bring up here. I just thought that this might bring a little discussion to the board. I know where the money goes when I give it to the state. Have things changed with the state recognizing the tribal permits? I still have a couple of friends that I have not been able to change over, that is, they fish with the tribal licence. 2 years ago I was fishing with one of those friends when we were checked by the Idaho F & G. At that time the officer said that they didn't like to see them but they considered them a legal licence none the less. I was embarressed, but at least it wasn't me. By the way I'll be over there sun or tue. Going to do a little bank fishing. I'm thinking this cold weather will be keeping a few people away right?