lTlCleo not to worry...gotta agree with pretty much everything you said .

Spawnout was all right on with his cautions about nutrient use. The one thing he needs to consider though is what you see today as far as biodiversity is not what it was 20 years ago or longer. But a cautionary approach is the right path.

ltlCleo is also right about harvest of smolts...lots of fathers showing their kids how to catch downstream migrant steelhead and coho(easily identified by the white stripe on their anal fin). This continues to occur even though the regs are pretty clear that if it ain't fin clipped then you can't keep it.

Also the seals at the mouths of these rivers are able to overwhelm the returning steelhead as these fishes numbers have been driven below the level at which they can recover on their own...simple predator/prey relationship.

Good discussion.

Gooose