Buck, you are going to get almost ZERO sympathy around here for lurkin'. But I have to give you some credit, at least you'll admit to it. All most of the guys (and gals) ask is that you post something constructive once in a while. Just don't tell us the river is blown when is it in prime condition---just keep your yap shut, unless you want to PO a lot of folks. A lot of the guys & gals will share some techniques; for example, look at RichG's post about his multi-colored killer bugs. (RichG, you're killin' me--I am working all day!!) No specifics on where, just an effective bait. Fair enough?