Geeez MA, you must be getting lonely fishing down there. Your post should help with that though. rolleyes wink Ok, the Tillamook River south of the Trask is slow - the locals know why it's now always slow. And for anglers not knowing those area rivers well, you will have to look around a lot for the fish. If you look hard enough you can find a few holes with lots of fish in them; but more holes with none in them. This is the current case on the upper Trask system, much of the Wilson, and on the lower half of the reachable holes of the Kilchis there are loads of fish. That river is smaller than the other two though, and rain this week should help get them moving to more areas of the stream; as well as helping prevent scaring them out of the 'air' clear holes, even when a small cork float drifts slowly overhead from a cast far above the fish (in the afternoons anyway, they may have been harrassed the first half of the day - a number of guys know about them in there). Get after 'em all you guys. smile ... I will be out sled fishing on 350,000 delicious springers.