I still have the 5000 that I got my 1st steelhead on it work just fine in fact I had it with in the boat for a back up yesterday. have had a couple of bad ones in 20 years usealy there better ideas but they are work horse take care of them and they are fine. I tried a Callcutta on a guide trip that thing was junk! Oh and that little tool and oil in the box take it with get sand in your rell take vest off lay it down for table strip your rell down clean it out put back togather and quit your *****in takes 10 min.