Yo, Gutzy. I had already chewed that one and crapped salmon loaf long before F4. Same with another springer I caught when out fishing with Jim (Wiser) earlier in the week of F4; up near Milwaukie. That fresh gleaming one with the pink worm in it's mouth at F4 was fresher than any of your underwear ever is! laugh (smack here is a combo of Peruvian Suttle and NY facial wink )