Kurt F, if you read between the lines you can usually separate the crap from what's probably true. My point is that there are no secrets anymore, and if you can't talk fishin' what the hell good is a site like this? Thanks for your report Blkbrant. I went back to Wind on Wednesday afternoon and got a pair on herring. One of them dashed into the lines of three people pulling Warts, hooked all three, and they were so cool they pulled up my line, cut their Warts off and I proceeded to catch the fish.