Jim B. You have more patience than I. First let me ask are you by chance not a regular on this board? I am willing to bet a couple of cold beers that you are not a part of the GROUP. I would be safe to assume, that if you were a sworn in, true full blooded board member your name would be all over the front page of the hypocrite gazzette, the news of choice it seems around here. I dont know you, but my impression is your a thief, con artist, tax evader, outlaw, all around jerk o--. Thats the way it seems you are being portrayed in some of the responses. I however, with my .02 worth think you are doing what most dont SOMETHING.. In 95' as VP local T.U. chapter we had no funding for our net pen project. In 4 weeks I by myself put together the first Seacrest silver salmon derby. Tickets were $10.00 If I remember correctly Aunty Ms significant other won $300.00 First place, Ernie Rogers dad took second $200.00. I had prizes of cash,cds, charters,gear,outdoor emporium gift certificats, concert tckts from KISW,etc etc. I did all the calls for sponsorship picked up all the prizes by myself, spent a fair amount of cash on phone bills, missed work, gas for my rig, over hundred hours of My time, I got no help from anyone and I first called the guys that *****ed the most about no local fish around as our pen project was delayed release chinook, and coho that returned to the net pen, area for local fisherman. After all was said and done, and all expenses were paid, none of my costs were included in that dollar amount. I was able to provide 1,200$ to pay all the feed costs, for the remaining time we held the fish. I walked away with $23.65 cents left over. A week or so later I was confronted by some of the bithchers and whiners asking what happend to the excess dollars as rumour was I pocketed 20$ dollars for a not for profit salmon derby.I got no recognition from local or national T.U. And never went to another meeting again. POINT BEING. Your in for a uphill battle and this board will lead the charge. You have your work cut out for you and dont excpect any pats on the back, instead look out for the stab in the back. If you think that this could be a help for the fish and sportfisherman, and the WDFW guys dont F with you to bad then go for it. Document evey exspense and make duplicates. If I can be of help to you then email me at livn4fishn@webtv.net. This is my .02 worth and not to point the finger at any one person but just the way i see things in my shallow little mind