i was over in idaho this past week fishing for springers, and what i caught mine on was a bucktail chartruese jig, no eggs jus scent..its was 17.5 pounds, you may want to try jig and bobber, and stick to deeper holes, say 10 foot or so deep..im gonna try this setup on the fall kings in the nisqually and puyallup rivers, since it works well over there so much, **berkley boy**