well, i'm glad i didn't come off like a jerk. one thing i've found that is pretty intersting, is to set the drag as you normally would (scale or no scale) and with someone else holding the rod take a long run (just like a fish) and notice how little tension is acctually at the hook end of your line. it's a fun experiment, and gives a good idea on how much tension you are really putting on a fish. smile