Been reading this board for sometime and thought i had better share what info i know. ive been fishing s.w. wa rivers since i was 15, not an expert at all but i can put fish in the boat (sometimes).. anyway the treb and siwash debate....me personally i go with the siwash, why, simply for the ease of releasing fish.. i think both are effective,, its just that rare time when you get a native and all three barbs got his mouth wired shut.