ZoZo no worries I can take a ribbing as well as anyone I'm opinionated and probably deserve it:)

Anyway. The reason I ask this question is not because I want ideas but because a local river just went to no bait and as a wild fish advocate i want guys out there catching the hatchery fish that are planted there. This river has no hatchery on it so all the hatchery fish that are not harvested will spawn in the river and i fear that the no bait rule will keep a lot of guys away. which is great for me personally but not great for the river. I almost never use bait anyway but i want guys to post as many ideas as they want so that people will read and hopefully be effective when they fish the river.