parker,i went up to the confluence myself and watched hillbilly bob.definately someone you shouldn't say anything to.looked like he wouldn't have any problem killing you over a chum i also watched team flossing, that was interesting.the bottom guy spotted for his 3 freinds and they flossed them as the fish came by.my freind has property at satko glen and i drive up there to watch the mayham when i need some insight on what not to do when fishing on the good side the hatchery has all the fish they need and the coho run was very strong this year.scott