also- for those willing to stick it out we really do have real conversations where we disagree with eachother but have a good discussions....its just that you get the people that only want to believe in media left/right stereotypes and want to pigeonhole people into a series of beliefs based upon one or two statements that they believe to be liberal or conservative and then its easy to get into shirts and skins pissing matches.....

stick around jason- people will suprise you and one moment you might think they are a communist and the next moment you will really agree with them.... noone in here fits perfectly into the stereotypes one way or another......not even krusty or sard.....or does anyone remember the "ah shucks" moment when "The King"(may he rest in peace) posted how ya can allways tell what season it is at his house based upon what pies are cooling on the window sill..........then we all talked about pie for a while