...they pretty much think we shouldn't have ever gone, should get out now, and should get the CIC a new job...preferably clearing rubble in Fallujah.

So "they" are the final authority? I can bring you just as many that support the action. Try asking some of the volunteers who are there now. I have. I too am a Vietnam Vet and I support the cause. Mistakes have been made. They always are. How about Korea? A damn good General got fired for wanting to do the right thing and look at where it got us. I have a brother who served heroically in Korea with the Marines. Ever heard of Chosin? He supports the action. Also have a cousin who served at Chosin and rose to top Gunnie with 30 years under his belt. He doesn't agree but he sure as hell doesn't p and moan like some who would love to see this country lose just so they could say I told you so Bush!

One more point, Bush ain't running a third term so get over it! I really hope in a sadistic sort of way that one of those screwballs the D party has been putting up for election runs and wins. Hope they have plenty of Depends!

Then we will need Jesus!