You're right about it not getting any better down there Dan. Only law changes can change the way it is, because you can't change people's nature. I know there are bank fishermen who are assholes too, but it's easier to move around them. The reason I'm always going to fish the Cowlitz is because our land has been in my family since the 1880's, my grandmother Mary Ellen even has a fishing hole named after her down below Blue Creek.