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Originally posted by JimB:
Well spark, I have come to the conclusion that you and I would probably never be friends based on a number of different things you have posted.

Like him or not, Tim Eyeman is brilliant. Like it or not the initiative process is the peoples only breath of fresh air in the political process. Like it or not Tim Eyeman has been the only one to make this process really work.

Do I agree with all the initiatives? Doesn't matter! Do I agree with the kickback he got? Doesn't matter! The initiative process is the only political tool that the normal guy has anymore.

I know you strive to be cool and accepted that is obvious. Just be aware that as wounded as our political and judicial systems seem to be I challenge you to find better systems in place anywhere in the world.

Sorry for the rant, but negative put downs of any person is uncalled for in my opinion.

Jim
Negative put downs of any person is uncalled for? Tim Eyeman is not exactly a saint. He used money donated to his iniatives to pay himself and as a result as lost an extreme amount of credit with the citizens of Washington.

Our right to form initiatives is not universially accepted among political scientists and it's split among the states as to the citizens ability to get such intiatives on the ballot. The danger is that you get the Tim Eyeman's of the world that really do stand things on their heads and cause damage to the bureaucratic system. Should citizens have the right to vote on their own taxation? No, it is silly to think that citizens have the conscience to "do the right thing" and raise their own taxes.

That being said, I am a supporter of Tim Eyeman. His initiatives are neither good for our state nor are they particularly well reasoned or written. But, he has accomplished something that bureaucracy on it's own cannot. He managed to stand the state on it's head which allowed all that loose change hiding in it's pockets to come falling out. Obviously the state hasn't collasped. Our tax dollars have just been cut from much of the fluff. (Keep in mind, one man's fluff is another's bread). We did/do have good reason to distrust our state's ability to budget money and responsibly for the benefit of the people. His initiatives are absolutely essential with our current governorship in order to provide the citizens with a tool for real checks and balances.

That horse's ass sure is entertaining!
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