The best place to get down riggers is on ebay. I have bought and sold several pairs there and have always done good.. remember a few rules to better bidding on ebay. 1st find what you want and click on the watch button. this puts the item onto your ebay list and you can watch it until you are ready to bid. 2) never bid on anything until the last 10 mins. all you are doing by biding early is jacking up the price. 3) set a limit for your self and never get in a bidding war. People have bidded more then what you would pay new just to win. 4) if you are selling something and you get bids early have your girl freind bid from her account to drive up the price . that just a few hints and dont get bumed becouse you lost "just what you are looking for" there will be another on next week. right now there are 24 penn downriggers for sale . tom