I agree with you 100% there Pilskin! Freedom of choice in the fate of doing nobody else direct, intentional or ignorant harm is a silly argument up for debate. Maybe it's the insurance companies and our rates that are at stake in the fate of seatbelt laws -you should wear one if you value your life not because some folks "care" about you that much....come on....please. If they do, then please somebody stop me from
rockclimbing..... laugh

Now all I do is carry trash bags with me evertime I go to the lake or river...maybe it brings me good fishing karma?? fishy

By the way, did these people get caught in the end?
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