Got skunked today Carl, but I know of one boat that did not, He was trolling a green and yellow k3 frog at 27 to 35 ft off his rigger on the south end of poverty rock in 100', at about yer trollin speed. He caught a bunch over 2-3lbs and one 10+lb triploid. Give it a try and let us know, I trolled all day, took the flatfish out two or three times, put 'em away and used something else DOH!