my my eddie you are up early...good points. There is most likely a way to preserve hunting and fishing and the environment at the same time. Lots of hunting and fishing groups do great things for the environment by reestablishing critical habitat. Sure they do it so they can hunt and fish but to me that is a balanced approach. To mount an "anti" campaign with no end game is questionable. That is why I ask about WT's end game. Is it to preserve wild salmon only? To help reestablish the wild runs of my grandpa's era? Or is it to oppose anything not in lock step with them? I don't know. Well I must go outside and freeze my butt off washing the boat...gotta get it ready for LaPush... Hey that reminds me of a success story: Halibut..As Terry Rudnick said at our last meeting: The good old days of halibut fishing are NOW....Well somewhere in the world it is 4:20...peace