Depends on what type of "mooching" you want to do, and/or trolling. The FS89C fenwicks are awesome. I only use the Made in USA (pre buyout) fens. Awesome rods and all I use for my mooching and plunking. The FS85 (I use the FS85C since I only use baitcasters) aren't bad. But a bit light, especially on heavy gear. Great once the fish is on, but really puts a bend on the rod, and REALLY sucks it down with a fish on. Was my first baitcasting rod in fact back in the mid 70's. Still have it (mostly for my plug rod nowadays). Can't go wrong with them. Not sure about the new one's though.