Thanks for the tip Erndog. Where is Beal, is this in Area 11 as well?

I try to stay in the 2-3 mph range by watching the DR cables but lately I've been in a bit of a slump so I have been varrying it around to experiment. I'll have to fire up the gps next time out to double check the speed. I monitored speed relative to these guys today to make sure we were in the same zone.

Same speed, same depth, same line along the shore, similar tackle. They had what looked like red flashers--mine are the green/glow--with green hootchies. Their leaders were also longer. Seemed like they could barely get their line down without a pickup. We had two lines in the water without a single takedown all afternoon, unless you count a flounder :-)