apology accepted, the betting of the rods was just a ploy to get someone to take me on the cowlitz, I have never fished it and would like to.

and yes I remember david carridine snatching pebles out of the masters hand.

I figure we had wires crossed, out of respect I tryed to go easy but its tough,
thanks for posting the pics, that blue on white also work in the salt, looks like a herring I guess, I also tie white ones with a little orange on the belly and knock the snot out of the dollys in the skagit. I purchased flesh colored maribu at the fishing show and well tie them up for dollys as well. no hard feelings, Im sorry for being so bull headed on my end too.....DJ