WOW!!!!!!!! Thanks to all for your replys. You where all vary helpful, if not, entertaining.

I especially liked the line watch & have quit frankly used this technic not really thinking to much about it but will definitely take into more consideration the next time I am on the river.

One other thing. I hooked into a tree across the river last Sunday & when I got it loose, it came right back at me & boy was it mad. I hit me right on my left temple. The fella next to me said: "Did what I think I heard really happen?" I had to wait to regain full clarity before I could answer. It really rung my bell.