sorry i did not know about no catch and release after your limiit. I dont see any thing wrong with c and r hatchery fish at the boat with a pair of pliars. I was using bar less hooks on all the coyote spoons. But if those are the rules o.k. by me. I will just candr after are 5th fish (3 people) then keep the last one (like I know which ones the last one is) . does some one want to let me in on the joke about cutts. We catch and eat a lot of cutts in lake washington. A bunch of boats with fisherman just like me came over and asked what we were using and at what depth, and you know what I TOLD THEM!!!!!!!!!. Chanaces are if you have a lure in your taclke box so do i . and if you can help me catch fish, maybe I can help you catch fish. secret spots and lures are for selfish old grumpy farts. (best bad langage I can get away with here) . The trick that was getting us fish more then others was herring oil on the lures , but dont tell anyone ok..If I did not re scent my secret coyote lure (green and white) every time i reset in the down rigger I would not get a bite. Oh one more thing the silver doger(side to side ) was out performing the flasher ( big circle ) 3 to 1. go figure . My buddy cliff went back to day at the same spot and time and got skunked, go figure.