Downrigger, you are "THE MAN".. I've been around for years and years, but I have learned quite a bit from you-- many thanks. You must have lots of reading time on that 'tin can', (can't remember what the flat ones are called)

By the way,, I took a grand slam and 2 imitations that I had tied up w/ lots of glo flashabou. One had the head wrapped in flashabou like you would wrap peacock hearl. Both of my flys put the G/S to shame for 'glo' longevity. (esp the glo head)

Thanks --- bring on the 'B mouth'