Cabelas huh..I used to look for ltlcleos or similiar and never did find anything.

I will have to break down and get back on there mailing list thanks

I do not think that fishing is the primary money maker in there anymore.I stopped buy a couple of months ago and there was a new kid in there that was genuinely nice and did not look down his nose at you if you did not buy anything but the top of the line g-loomis.