Thanks again for all the ideas! But I guess I jinxed myself when I broke my own rule of bragging before the deed is done. Normally one of my fishing buds (who went with me) does this, and I always tell him he is jinxing himself/us. Well this time I did it. We didn't touch any chrome on the Cowlitz yesterday. I did manage a couple white fish, but they don't count. So I guess we got skunked. Guides appeared to be having trouble getting their clients their fish too. I have been doing well the last couple years, and I guess I got over confident. Still I won't break the rule again!!!