BOB - First of all, let me say that I appreciate you making this board available for those of us that like to read-write about sport fishing. I find there is lots of useful information that I can use when I am out there on the streams or the saltchuck. It is also useful for those of us that can share our knowledge of how the fisheries operate.

Bigotry is not what I call it. The posts I refer to simply fit the definition. Its not my definition.

My reasoning is based on involvement in fisheries management on the coast and around the OP since 1976. So, it is not out of line, it is experience.

Whether the sport limits or seasons have stayed the same or not has little to do with the Tribal fisheries. The State manages its harvestable amount and the Tribes manage their harvestable amount. Some perform their duty well, others do not. This should be of no surprise.

Many fisheries are based on harvest rates and these are calculated from historical catch and effort models. If days not fished one week are moved to another then those days are representative of different catch and effort which are accounted for in the harvest model.

Again, Tribal fisheries are not "linked" to sport fisheries in the way you are inferring. Each is fishing on a separate portion of the harvestable amount.

No PC thinking, just the facts.

budnate - I share your concern for inadequate enforcement of the rules. All the Tribes I know of have wastage language in their laws and regualtions. It is similar to that in the WA state codes. If someone retains fish or shellfish during a fishery and does not care for the catch they are subject to fines... in both indain and non-indian fisheries. I think the enforcement problem is similar as well. Neither the State nor the Tribea have adequate funding and manpower for natural resource enforcement. I can think of many wastage problems in the sport fishery. This is not unique to the Tribes.

I am not looking for agreement, just offering another perspective. I don't pretend to know everything. But what I do know I wanted to share so that folks here could at least consider another viewpoint. I would even like to challenge the popular thinking here. But, if you would rather only listen to the oft-repeated view that someone has witnessed an indian fisherman doing something bad then all Tribes and all indian fishermen are bad, thats fine with me. Its a free country.

And, I could be posting on the wrong board. I am certainly not here to cause resentment. I can simply read what I want to read and keep that different perspective to myslef. Thats fine by me. But what kind of board would this be if everyone did that?

grandpa - Nope... not a tribal member nor am i even distantly related to a tribal member. Just another guy offering an informed view, like anyone else. You don't mind that do you?

The Tribes regulate tribal fisheries. The State regualted state fisheries. The two are not the same. What is so hard to understand?
Its not up to the state to be PC or not. This is federal law we are talking about, not State law.

I remember the disagreement on the Quillayute last year very well. Not totally familiar with the inside situation there. But as I recall, things were worked out eventually. More importantly, was the chinook escapement met? If I remeber correctly, it was.

Well, I hope that people are still allowed to voice their views and offer their perspectives on this board. I have enjoyed reading about the fishing experiences posted.