Quote from OP..."Where do you fish? I know a number of guides including bob pound the **** out of the upper rivers catching fish off of their spawning beds,"



Nice lies about Bob will get you no where, including staying on this board!!

You may have some valid points OPLocal from Pullman,

But comming on this board for the first time and making up lies is not one of them!!!

In this day crowded fishing conditions can be a fact of life, you can either deal with it or find somewhere new to fish.

Non of us own any river but it is a great privledge for us to have to fish them!!