lazydrifter,

I'm still thinking 101 to hatchery is definately closer to 9 river mi. (like say 8.5 ;\) ) than 3.5 so that's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Upper Dowans to Undie if they're still there @ 4mi (give or take).
But hey what do I know?
Don't answer that, my wife already has. \:D
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