I tend to agree with the on the harvest issue on the lower Quinault.

One thing, is i feel the way they do clipping is the way they like it that way you cant tell the difference and many fish get counted up above that arent really wild so it looks like the impact is less.

Those fish that go to the upper river are gonna be counted as wild no matter if they are are not.

I read in a status review from NMFS once wish I could remember where I found it. Was from 1990 I believe. It stated that the Quinault had the most degraded wild stocks of the entire lower 48 coast. It actually even referenced the stocks as being a heinze 57. They blamed it on hatchery practices and introductions of outside stocks over and over. It said it was probable there wernt any true native fish left in the system.