Dave is honest enough to have earned his right to his opinion if he chooses to air it in a public forum. I can tell you it is not easy to represent a group and still air your own controversial opinions as you will always upset someone.

There a a bunch of smart people who lurk here who would not dare speak their minds here for fear of being found out and for fear of ruffling the wrong feathers. I can respect that anonimity as well but I just don't subscribe to it and neither does Dave (if I can make an assumption).

I understand the PLF side of the argument as did the courts. I understand the backlash that is happening after many years, many billions of wasted dollars and thousands of unnecessary and punitive environmental and ESA rulings. That is not to say I am an exploitive and uncaring Republican...one of those guys Dave doesn't care for. I am for fresh cold water for the preservation of our wild fish runs. I also post news articles and editorials here so others who may not look at the news can atleast see many different slants on the same story....

Too often, on PP in particular, things are black and white....you are for WSR or you are kill everything that moves neandrathal idiot. No room for both sides because there is only one side to many here.

I think Dave might agree that no matter how much he dislikes GW Bush he can't pin everything on him but he does seem to try. Hopefully we can either agree with him or show the other side in the hopes that he will atleast read it....changing minds is not so much the goal here as getting out anecdotal evidence that our opinions hold water. Personal attacks are tough to resist sometimes but probably not the best way to win an argument.

Congratulations on the award Dave.