The new dipseys are nice especially with the added weight in the dipsey it self. It really helps get those spooky fish that are deep, out of the 25 fish we caught today 2/3 came on those dipseys. The key to get them down deep is to use something like power pro or braided wire. I don't know how wire would work in salt water, but here wire is the only thing going some days. We keep a log on how deep the dipseys can go out with certain amounts of line, just let out a certain amount and keep going shallower until it scraps bottom, and that can give you a general guestimate on how deep you are runing your bait.