We started out at 6 fishing a hole that everybody and there brother knows about, but is always a producer. Fished it for hours with no luck. Moved upriver about 5 miles, into sumner i think and found the mouth of the white. It is clearly visable on a thomas guide. The spinners i use are a #3 or 4 with a tannished body and blade. Mor-tac is an old BC company i think that mad spinners and spoons. the spinner simply has a brass body that is tappered on both ends. I tarnish the pieces by heating them over a torch and dipping them in water. the less tarnished ones seem to work best.